{"modules":["unloadOptimization","bandwidthDetection"],"unloadOptimization":{"browsers":{"Firefox":true,"Chrome":true}},"bandwidthDetection":{"url":"https://ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/thirtysevens.jpg","maxViews":4,"imgSize":37,"expiry":300000,"timeout":250}}. Posted: 5/24/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Loosely tighten bolts in this sequence, then go back and tighten them down again in this sequence. Thank you! If that checks out, I'd confirm the motor and impeller you are using are matched correctly. Posted: 6/1/2013, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Enable JavaScript by changing your browser options, and then try again. Add the rest of your hoses without attaching the cleaner. When you hold the other end of the shaft, it should not be able to move. Something went wrong. You will see the motor wiring and capacitor. endstream endobj 209 0 obj <><><>]/OFF[]/Order[]/RBGroups[]>>/OCGs[233 0 R]>>/Pages 206 0 R/StructTreeRoot 13 0 R/Type/Catalog>> endobj 210 0 obj <>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC/ImageI]/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/TrimBox[0 0 612 792]/Type/Page>> endobj 211 0 obj <>stream I would pull out the motor and check it. At the impeller end, twist off the impeller counterclockwise. I replaced the motor last year. The location of the pool pump impeller is shown in this cut-away of a pump. Try hitting around the joint with a rubber hammer. Posted: 5/25/2014, medic1655 And if your impeller was clogged, you would not have good flow initially. Check hose connections then take out one hose at a time to try to isolate the leak. Any suggestions? Posted: 4/22/2022, Claudia L. Duncan *Free shipping valid in Canada Only; Remote areas do not qualify for free shipping. Posted: 4/29/2016, danny If bolts were numbered 1 though 4, replace bolts in this sequence - 1, 3, 2, 4 - to ensure that the motor is set properly inside the housing. If the bolt or socket is stripped, you may have a problem getting it to hold when you reassemble your pump. Make sure the plastic strip is in place between the clip and capacitor so that the capacitor does not short out. Make sure that hose is completely under water. Snap on the diffuser - no screws are required. & Catalog Icons, Account Change Unscrew the single screw that hold the capacitor in place and push it out of the way. Motors and impellers have two total horsepower scales, uprate and full rate. With the wrench securing the back end of the motor shaft, screw the impeller back onto the shaft (clockwise). The nick itself would not cause an air leak, but it does indicate that the inside of the pump had some problem like a stone or acorn. Take off the two screws that hold the back cover onto the assembly. For instructions on replacing this seal click. I have watched your excellent video but cannot get the seal on the impeller. I have a call into the motor rep. My keyed shaft CK1102 motor just died and I am replacing it, but a tech at a local pool store tells me that the pump & impeller are still in great shape and do not need replacing. I have an older pump that is completely metal (brass I think?). Most people replace the motor when the bearings go but they can also be replaced with the right tooling. 2009 - 2022 Pool Supplies Canada. The first step in preparing to remove your pump's impeller is to turn off all power to the motor. 231 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<27FCA18F46A6ED40BB8CBEE745CBB713>]/Index[208 49]/Info 207 0 R/Length 112/Prev 257310/Root 209 0 R/Size 257/Type/XRef/W[1 3 1]>>stream Posted: 1/4/2013, mckyd68 Replace lid. PhiWc|R!Yg(+{=8p%PB|[o{+`seCoaR*K W/^V'LJ!YerqSdg3E$[]NNJY6l}Zeh;krzvf]NWb^s=Ll5r?/|jO?l5V'hR)T. Posted: 8/10/2012, For a quick introduction, this picture shows the operation of the impeller. With the impeller off you will see the motor shaft seal. Leave feedback about your eBay ViewItem experience, Hayward SPX3026C 3-Horsepower Impeller Replacement for Hayward Super II Pump, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new window or tab, - for PayPal Credit, opens in a new window or tab, - eBay Return policy - opens in a new tab or window, - eBay Money Back Guarantee - opens in a new tab or window. It is just like any other profession; we can make mistakes. But if you broke any part of your impeller, you should replace it. Water will spray out initally as you see the pressure on the pressure gauge go to 0 psi. Suggested site content and search history menu, Armstrong 1/25 HP Astro 230SS Circulator Pump, Armstrong 1/6 HP H-32 Circulator Pump, 1/6 HP, Single Phase, 115 Volt, Volute, Armstrong Nonferrous Impeller For H-32 And S-35, Armstrong 1/4 HP S-45 Circulator Pump Less Volute With Viton Seal, Armstrong 4-Spring Cast Iron Pump Coupler, Fits S-25, S-35, H-32 And H-41 Pumps, Carrier SmartComfort Heat Pump Reversing Valve For 1.5 And 2.0 Ton Heat Pumps, Account Change Could this be the problem and it needs to be replaced? My question is how best do I separate my old leaking shaft seal (and impeller) from its metal bracket/motor mount. endstream endobj startxref Then pulled off putty in sequence to see what connection generated air in the system. medic 1655 - I have no idea what your three metal gaskets are either?? impeller - I don't know why the impeller is able to spin both ways when you are holding the shaft and keeping it from rotating. If there are any cracks or pieces broken off on the impeller, it needs to be replaced. JavaScript must be enabled in order for you to uses this site. Great article and many thanks for the closeups. Sometimes debris will get into the pump and will crack the impeller. View cart for details. dlc - If your motor is not making excessive noise, it and the impeller are probably not the problem. Replace the capacitor on the backside of the assembly. Posted: 4/23/2013, ds1 wayneb56 - Here was the response from the Century motor rep. "On a question like this, you really need to know the whole story. Check the pump body for possible cracks. They have to generate pretty good torque to move the water. This item has been successfully added to your list. If you used chemicals to clear your water, these chemicals may be clogging your filter. Request, California Replace cover and secure with two screws. Posted: 8/11/2014, Susan The repair kit for that pump is ", I lost prime on my Hayward Northstar pump. Posted: 8/4/2014, Ken Grab the seal on the impeller and twist it off. Inspect the diffuser gasket for wear. Hooked up my new pump with new impeller, gaskets, etc. Any suggestions? If pump has 6 bolts, replace bolts in this sequence - 1, 3, 5, 2, 4, 6. wayneb56 - I wouldn't think you could prevent a motor from spinning by holding the impeller. You may have 115V at the breaker box and your pump may be set up for 230V. Posted: 4/22/2022, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Posted: 4/6/2015, Anonymous Posted: 4/28/2016, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Try prying the motor out gently. What is the useful life of an impellar? The impeller was on very tightly and in the process of trying to get it off, a part of the outer edge snapped off. Posted: 5/9/2013, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Water enters the center of the impeller. Next you will have to relieve the pressure that builds up in the pump during operation. Also, the motor cycling on and off could be a sign it is overworking itself; its overheating cuts out, cools off, restarts, and then shuts down when it starts to overheat. Your pump should maintain prime. After reinstalling hoses and pipes, there is a leak between the motor and impeller. Posted: 8/27/2012, kfcrandy Then check all your suction connections. Posted: 5/25/2015, Iyopools Then check the impeller shaft and seal plate for any wear that would offset your shaft seal. However, the impeller cannot be freed from the motor shaft without first securing the motor shaft. However, it seems JavaScript is either disabled or not supported by your browser. didn't try to force it. 0 I am trying to remove the motor on my Hayward Super pump. Due to the higher drag, the smaller motor will have trouble spinning the larger impeller. When turnin the pump on, the motor runs at a slow speed for the first 20 seconds, then it shuts down completely. To relieve pressure turn the relief valve on top of the filter counter clockwise. Click OK to extend your time for an additional 0 minutes. the new seal has a metal bottom with a rubber seal inside. Posted: 5/27/2014, HygienePool Is it necessary to pry the motor away? Posted: 4/5/2015, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Print & Catalog Icons, Replacement 1-1/2 Hp Impeller For The Hayward Super Pump High Performance Pool Pumps, Also Fits Hayward Super Ii Pumps Pre 1987 And Maxflo Pumps And Power Flo Ii Pumps, Impeller Has Threaded Brass Connect To Motor Shaft, Faster service: Remove 4-bolts to access impeller. Do I have to order the whole diffuser, or can I just order the gasket? No need to disconnect the capacitor from its leads. Check your incoming voltage. Posted: 5/10/2013, Anonymous Have a new housing gasket ready if you have to put this together right away. Then check that the impeller is sound (is not cracked or wobbles) and not clogged. There is also a loud noise coming from the motor. TY. Posted: 2/20/2017, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. I have a filter that is a little larger and it works better. Save $10 on your first order! The torque will be more than adequate to overcome the seal drag at the lowest speed setting, with acceptable operating voltage. instructions for how to enable JavaScript in your web browser, Please click here to view our How A Pool Pump Works HTG, Please click here to view our How ToRemove Stubborn Pool Pump Impellers Blog, Please click here to view our How To Replace a Motor Shaft Seal Guide, Please clickhere to our main pump parts page, Please click here to view O Ring Lubricant. Posted: 12/18/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. If you do not see the diffuser or its gasket, check inside the housing. I need to call an electrician---. One bolt just keeps spinning and is not losing up. Also, check step 15 of this guide to make sure that the shaft seal isn't mounted upside down. The seal looks different than the one I took off. How could I do this correctly? Posted: 6/3/2016, Concretedad Click here first to search our How To Guides for answers to the most frequently asked questions regarding pool kits, pool equipment and more! Note: Securing the motor shaft on other non-Hayward type pumps varies. Pickles - I am not familiar with this pump but going to a hammer sounds a little extreme and you may end up damaging the pump. Due to possible hand injury, I dont think anyone would recommend trying this procedure. ;z7Y~\,z Then rotate the impeller. One or more part # you entered is invalid. When he responds, I will get back with you. I have all new seals ready to go and I've removed the impeller and pump from the dead motor, now I want to ensure I separate these two parts without damaging either. I believe it is about 16 years old. If your haven't replaced your motor shaft seal and gaskets, I would also do that. If the electrician finds no wiring issues, you need to open the pump to check the part numbers. I'm looking at part 5110-82. See our guide on cleaning out an impeller Also if you have low pressure, you may have developed a suction leak in your pump or in the piping coming into your pump. Posted: 6/2/2013, dlc Posted: 6/2/2016, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Make a note of how the seal is positioned on the impeller so you know how to place the new seal. Could this be the problem? I have a Purex 2hp Whisperflow pump. You may have to use a strap wrench to gently free up the impeller. The maximum number of products that can be compared is 4. I used the parts sold to me by the pool store--I brought the new pump in to show them, so I assume they gave me the right stuff. It can corrode the surface. Try soaking your filter with a TSP solution to help clean out the fine residue in the creases of the filter. Then from the impeller side, rotate the impeller COUNTER-CLOCKWISE to screw it off the shaft. Separated pump and reinstalled impeller bolt. Posted: 8/2/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Push the half of the seal that you just removed onto the new impeller. Copyright 1995-2022 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. https://hdsupplysolutions.com/ProductDisplay?urlRequestType=Base&catalogId=10054&categoryId=22355&productId=1453348&urlLangId=-1&langId=-1&top_category=&parent_category_rn=&storeId=10051. *FREE, next-day delivery on most orders to most areas. Customer Service & Phone Hours of Operation, For Models: SP2600X5, SP2605X7, SP2607X10, SP2607EE(2S), SP2610X15(2S), SP2615X20(2S), SP2621X25. For an expanded explanation of how a pump operates click. You may be trying to force the new collar over the old one. Join our promotional newsletter and be first to know about upcoming sales, special offers and other promotions - no spam, we promise. If the diffuser came out with the assembly, pull the diffuser off the assembly. Ken - According to the pump manufacturers, if the oil on your fingertips gets on the ceramic bearing surfaces of the shaft seal, it will cause the surfaces to burn and deteriorate during operation. Concretedad - First check to make sure you bought the right replacement shaft seal. Interac Logo Trademark of Interac Inc, Used under Licence. Try disconnecting all hoses except the one coming out of the skimmer. Now add the cleaner and let the hoses float to the top. Posted: 8/11/2014, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. loss of prime - If you are truly losing prime to the point that your pump can no longer suck in water - no water flow, you may have a leak in your vacuum hose. To extract the motor pump assembly from the pump housing, first remove the four 9/16" bolts that bind the motor pump assembly to the housing. This guide explains how to replace a bad pool pump impeller.Please click here to view pump impellers, Claudia L. Duncan Posted: 8/10/2012, Anonymous danny - Look at Step 15 of this guide. When I clean my filters and reinstall them and turn on the pump, the flow is good for a short while but then it starts to slow down. Also if the threads are worn causing the impeller to wobble on the shaft, replace it. The pump doesn't seam to have the suction power when the vacuum is connected. Any idea what could cause this? It should snap off easily and expose the impeller. Move to the other end of the motor shaft in the back of the motor assembly. the flow starts slowing down about 2 hours after the pump is restarted. Best of all, you'll receive a $10 off coupon for use towards your first order of $149+! Do you think it's a bad bearing or a pump seal? But I wouldn't rule out mismatched impeller and motor. Ensure that the part of the diffuser labeled "TOP" is aligned with the "TOP" labeled on the seal plate. If the motor shaft does not rotate freely, the bearings are probably bad. Pull the assembly apart from the housing. Pulled out pump and noticed a nick in one of the impeller bladed. Try putting some pressure under the head of the bolt with a flat screwdriver as you are turning the bolt. I would take the motor out of the pump housing per the above instructions. Does the shaft rotate when you move the impeller?. Replace the four bolts evenly. Talk to a local hardware store about your options or you may be at the point of buying a whole new pump. Pentair should be able to advise on the actual torque. Also, you might want to specify what type of lube to use on that gasket (silicon, I believe would work). The torque will vary, depending upon the speed selected. Place a 7/16" wrench on the flat end of the motor shaft to secure the shaft from rotating. Again your pump should maintain prime. If something is jammed inside, you may have another issue. One half on the impeller and the other half in the seal plate on the shaft. I have learned a lot from your page. Hand tight is sufficient. I drained for the winter. Posted: 5/26/2015, Jerry kfcrandy - The impeller is not your problem unless it is clogged. Posted: 8/25/2012, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. Several people have written in saying that the new seal won't fit because they were trying to place the new collar on top of the old one. After the assembly is out, you should see the diffuser and diffuser gasket on the end of the assembly. Posted: 2/27/2017, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. I ordered and received a Hayward 1 1/2 hp motor and shaft seal for a Hayward pump Model number SP 2810X15. Posted: 6/10/2013, InyoPools Product Specialist Dennis R. It's happened to every pool tech who has been working for a while. %PDF-1.7 % Subscribe >, Click here first to search our How To Guides, Shop Children's STEM Toys at JR Toy Company. I ended up with 3 metal gaskets that I don't know where they belong and cannot find them on the schematic and still have no prime. Check the top of the basket cavity to make sure it has not cracked from over tightening. I think it's a wiring/voltage problem, beyond the pump. I purchased a new above ground pool with a 1 1/2 HP 2Sp pump, last year. Make sure the new seal on in the same position noted above. For maximum safety turn off the power at the circuit breaker to the motor - usually located next to the timer box. A 1HP and 1.5HP impeller look very similar, and if you're not careful, you could pick up the wrong part. 208 0 obj <> endobj Note: Some Hayward pumps have six bolts. Privacy, Fine Posted: 12/21/2014, Pickles Posted: 4/21/2022, InyoPools Product Specialist Matt S. Posted: 4/21/2022, InyoPools Product Specialist Matt S. Susan - If your diffuser is not damaged, you only need to buy the diffuser gasket, called the. The spinning action of the impeller when driven by the pump motor generates the water pressure in your pool system. What could the problem be? Copyright 2022 INYOpools All rights reserved. Finally make sure that your skimmer and strainer baskets are clean. mckyd68 - Sounds like the bolt is stripped. Your session is about to timeout due to inactivity. If you have not replaced the motor shaft seal and the pump is several years old, this may be a good time to replace this seal. Thanks for the response. Capacitors store power. Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing. hbbd```b``")"""M DjEH ~XD2I`x)%| $m{L@m& /m Note: You may have to also have to remove the metal collar if the new shaft seal also has one. I was wondering if the impellar could have degraded due the materials that flow through it? First, I'd check to ensure your wiring and voltage settings are correct. Smitty - If this is the first time you have run this motor, it may be configured for the wrong voltage. I'm ordering parts to replace an impeller on its way out for a Hayward Max Flo II, I'm not sure which diffuser gasket to order. Pump sounded like it wasnt generating all the power it normally does (Pentair Superflo VS). I do not believe it is the filters one is 6 months old and it does the same thing. Thanks! And it pretty much looked like the parts I was replacing. I was wondering if the pump could be losing flow when the back pressure in the filter starts to increase due to problem with the impeller. Keep track of the washers. So, if you purchased a 1 HP full rate impeller but installed a 1 HP uprate motor, your motor has a max total HP output of 1.25, and the impeller is a total HP of 1.65.
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